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	<title>Comments on: That’s character – Grimsby Town 1 Bradford City 3</title>
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		<title>By: Rob Wade</title>
		<link>http://www.boyfrombrazil.co.uk/2008/10/25/that%e2%80%99s-character-%e2%80%93-grimsby-town-1-bradford-city-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1189</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't remember the other two sendings off, but this was a clear red card. Sometimes you have to be fair, I'm afraid! He pulled the guy back and that's why he was able to get the tackle in; if he hadn't pulled him back, he'd have been in and so that's a red card. To accuse the ref of being a cheat cos he's sent 3 of our players off is a bit dodgy. Sometimes like Hereford at home last year and the Burnley game a few years ago, you may question the ref's honesty, but generally it's their competence that is the question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t remember the other two sendings off, but this was a clear red card. Sometimes you have to be fair, I&#8217;m afraid! He pulled the guy back and that&#8217;s why he was able to get the tackle in; if he hadn&#8217;t pulled him back, he&#8217;d have been in and so that&#8217;s a red card. To accuse the ref of being a cheat cos he&#8217;s sent 3 of our players off is a bit dodgy. Sometimes like Hereford at home last year and the Burnley game a few years ago, you may question the ref&#8217;s honesty, but generally it&#8217;s their competence that is the question.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Mckeown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Mckeown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wayne thanks for your comments.

I don't know what you mean when you say there wasn't a post in the way, I've watched it a few times on youtube and there is definitely a pillar which blocks the camera's view of Clarke and Jarman. I've spoken to a few fans over the weekend and read comments online and lots of people are saying it wasn't a foul (and others, like you, say it clearly was), so not just me who disagrees with the referee. I was right level with where Clarke was when at the game and I personally don't believe it was a tug and, like I say, the linesman didn't flag until Clarke made the tackle. Anyway just my opinion.

As for your Rhys Evans views, you're contradicting yourself. You ask if I'm 'having a laugh' when I say he hasn't fully convinced but then you go on to criticise his distribution. Surely be definition this means he hasn't fully convinced you?

I'm not out to attack Evans, I do like him and I think he is a decent keeper who hasn't done much wrong since joining in the summer. I don't agree our centre backs have been as bad as you make out, though I accept the more solid performance of Lee and Moncur on Friday certainly helped Evans. Again, I've spoken to others who are not convinced by Evans, so it's not just me; nothing major but my personal opinion is he's decent for this level but if we were to go up we might want to bring in someone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne thanks for your comments.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what you mean when you say there wasn&#8217;t a post in the way, I&#8217;ve watched it a few times on youtube and there is definitely a pillar which blocks the camera&#8217;s view of Clarke and Jarman. I&#8217;ve spoken to a few fans over the weekend and read comments online and lots of people are saying it wasn&#8217;t a foul (and others, like you, say it clearly was), so not just me who disagrees with the referee. I was right level with where Clarke was when at the game and I personally don&#8217;t believe it was a tug and, like I say, the linesman didn&#8217;t flag until Clarke made the tackle. Anyway just my opinion.</p>
<p>As for your Rhys Evans views, you&#8217;re contradicting yourself. You ask if I&#8217;m &#8216;having a laugh&#8217; when I say he hasn&#8217;t fully convinced but then you go on to criticise his distribution. Surely be definition this means he hasn&#8217;t fully convinced you?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not out to attack Evans, I do like him and I think he is a decent keeper who hasn&#8217;t done much wrong since joining in the summer. I don&#8217;t agree our centre backs have been as bad as you make out, though I accept the more solid performance of Lee and Moncur on Friday certainly helped Evans. Again, I&#8217;ve spoken to others who are not convinced by Evans, so it&#8217;s not just me; nothing major but my personal opinion is he&#8217;s decent for this level but if we were to go up we might want to bring in someone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne McManus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne McManus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Jason, but for once, I don't agree with you.

I think was rightly a free-kick and a sending off.  Why the linesman didn't flag initially I don't know, but it was definitely a tug.  I have seen it quite a few times on TV and don't understand the 'post in the way' comment.  There isn't even a post in view.  He clearly tugged their man back before getting in a clean tackle.  Had the referee or the linesman given the foul, it would also have been a penalty.  Ben (above) is spot in in his post.

As for 'Evans hasn’t fully convinced in goal since joining in the summer', are you having a laugh?  With the two guys in front of him acting like amateurs of late, can you be surprised if he has looked nervous.  Even with that in mind, he has been one of the more consistent players so far.  The only gripe I have is with his distribution.  He hasn't known when to roll it out to his fullbacks or when to punt it long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Jason, but for once, I don&#8217;t agree with you.</p>
<p>I think was rightly a free-kick and a sending off.  Why the linesman didn&#8217;t flag initially I don&#8217;t know, but it was definitely a tug.  I have seen it quite a few times on TV and don&#8217;t understand the &#8216;post in the way&#8217; comment.  There isn&#8217;t even a post in view.  He clearly tugged their man back before getting in a clean tackle.  Had the referee or the linesman given the foul, it would also have been a penalty.  Ben (above) is spot in in his post.</p>
<p>As for &#8216;Evans hasn’t fully convinced in goal since joining in the summer&#8217;, are you having a laugh?  With the two guys in front of him acting like amateurs of late, can you be surprised if he has looked nervous.  Even with that in mind, he has been one of the more consistent players so far.  The only gripe I have is with his distribution.  He hasn&#8217;t known when to roll it out to his fullbacks or when to punt it long.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Lofthouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Lofthouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Evans hasn’t fully convinced in goal since joining in the summer..."

I'm sorry but I totally disagree with that statement.

Apart from the free kick at Darlington I can't think of Evans "pulling a Donovan".

I think he's been superb between the sticks - his shot stopping, decision making, organisation have been second to none...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Evans hasn’t fully convinced in goal since joining in the summer&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry but I totally disagree with that statement.</p>
<p>Apart from the free kick at Darlington I can&#8217;t think of Evans &#8220;pulling a Donovan&#8221;.</p>
<p>I think he&#8217;s been superb between the sticks - his shot stopping, decision making, organisation have been second to none&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Mckeown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Mckeown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Wellers

I’ve since seen the sending off on TV and am still unconvinced. At the time the referee played on and then, when Clarke made the tackle, the assistant suddenly started flagging, which to me suggested he was flagging for the tackle otherwise he’d have flagged at the ‘shirt tugging’ (it’s not the assistant’s job to play advantage, he must wave his flag when the foul occurs and then it’s up to the ref). The ref noticed and blew up but, incredibly, didn’t go over and speak to the assistant and just sent Clarke off. 

To me it was the wrong decision and I don’t think Clarke really tugged the guy’s shirt (the TV footage isn’t conclusive because there’s a pillar in the way of the camera, so I’m not sure how it can be judged that he clearly tugged his shirt). Had we gone onto lose more would have been made of this, but if you think a decision is wrong I think you have to say so regardless of the result otherwise it can be seen as sour grapes. 

No offence but you don’t seem to be a Matt Clarke fan, so is this clouding judgement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Wellers</p>
<p>I’ve since seen the sending off on TV and am still unconvinced. At the time the referee played on and then, when Clarke made the tackle, the assistant suddenly started flagging, which to me suggested he was flagging for the tackle otherwise he’d have flagged at the ‘shirt tugging’ (it’s not the assistant’s job to play advantage, he must wave his flag when the foul occurs and then it’s up to the ref). The ref noticed and blew up but, incredibly, didn’t go over and speak to the assistant and just sent Clarke off. </p>
<p>To me it was the wrong decision and I don’t think Clarke really tugged the guy’s shirt (the TV footage isn’t conclusive because there’s a pillar in the way of the camera, so I’m not sure how it can be judged that he clearly tugged his shirt). Had we gone onto lose more would have been made of this, but if you think a decision is wrong I think you have to say so regardless of the result otherwise it can be seen as sour grapes. </p>
<p>No offence but you don’t seem to be a Matt Clarke fan, so is this clouding judgement?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Welby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Welby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hipperholme Bantam, had you really written off promotion after 12 games!? Or is that some sort of pointed jibe at some of the fickle voices around VP? It might interest you to know that the last time we won promotion we only had 18 points at this stage of the season.

Having seen Clarke's challenge on the telly it's the shirt pulling that allows him to get in a fair challenge that gets him sent off. And that started outside the box. Obviously if it was the challenge itself then it would have been a penalty. I'm normally one to call the referees out but there's no way we can complain about that decision, and given his recent form maybe it was a blessing in disguise...

Wins at Blundell Park should be what we're aiming for but don't forget we didn't manage it last year and 08/09 is going to be judged on how much better than 07/08 we are. So this 2 point 'improvement' offsets the points we dropped on Monday.

I reckon we're 5 points up on how we did last year. Any more than 1 point from Bury &#38; Barnet and we'll build on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hipperholme Bantam, had you really written off promotion after 12 games!? Or is that some sort of pointed jibe at some of the fickle voices around VP? It might interest you to know that the last time we won promotion we only had 18 points at this stage of the season.</p>
<p>Having seen Clarke&#8217;s challenge on the telly it&#8217;s the shirt pulling that allows him to get in a fair challenge that gets him sent off. And that started outside the box. Obviously if it was the challenge itself then it would have been a penalty. I&#8217;m normally one to call the referees out but there&#8217;s no way we can complain about that decision, and given his recent form maybe it was a blessing in disguise&#8230;</p>
<p>Wins at Blundell Park should be what we&#8217;re aiming for but don&#8217;t forget we didn&#8217;t manage it last year and 08/09 is going to be judged on how much better than 07/08 we are. So this 2 point &#8216;improvement&#8217; offsets the points we dropped on Monday.</p>
<p>I reckon we&#8217;re 5 points up on how we did last year. Any more than 1 point from Bury &amp; Barnet and we&#8217;ll build on that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben - Hipperholme Bantam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben - Hipperholme Bantam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last night restored my faith in being a City fan &#38; also in the team this season. With the exception of Clarke (who made a bad mistake to be sent off) it would be difficult to criticise any players. 

When we needed to be brave we were, when we needed to pass the ball we did, &#38; when we got chances we put them away. Particular credit goes to Furman, I thought he was excellent throughout. 

Promotion's now back on.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night restored my faith in being a City fan &amp; also in the team this season. With the exception of Clarke (who made a bad mistake to be sent off) it would be difficult to criticise any players. </p>
<p>When we needed to be brave we were, when we needed to pass the ball we did, &amp; when we got chances we put them away. Particular credit goes to Furman, I thought he was excellent throughout. </p>
<p>Promotion&#8217;s now back on&#8230;..</p>
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